How P2P and the County Will Work in 2010

At present

The text of this page formed a letter sent to club secretaries on 14-Oct-2009.

The SCBA raises money from people in the county in two ways:

  • An individual subscription of five pounds from each EBU/SCBA member.
  • A club subscription, proportional to the size of club, currently 50 pence per member.

All county associations receive the first component (which they set at different levels) and most set a fixed subscription for clubs. Suffolk has relatively more member clubs and fewer individual members than most counties and the current and past committees have felt that our proportional club-subscription is fairer to small clubs than a fixed fee.

After Universal Membership in April 2010

The SCBA will continue to raise funds in two ways:

  • A top-up to the P2P collected by the EBU.
  • A club subscription, proportional to the size of club, currently 50 pence per member.

Almost all county associations are to adopt the first means (which they will set accordingly) but Suffolk is slightly unusual in retaining the proportional nature of club-subscription. Some counties will raise all their funds by P2P, some have retained a fixed club-subscription. Few have experience of a proportional cost, so it is not surprising it is now rare. However, the Suffolk committee believes:

  1. It is an important connection between county and club when otherwise a club might only deal with the EBU
  2. It reduces the volatility of table-money. It will be easier to adjust the per-member amount over time without causing yearly changes in table-money to reflect this (or obliging clubs to absorb the difference).
  3. It continues to be fairer. Suffolk will treat every club-member as a county-member regardless of how active a player they are. There is therefore a component of our costs that are per-member and this charge reflects that. We polled clubs at the meeting in May 2008 and there was no dissent.

What will it mean to clubs?

Clubs will have to make a change to table-money to balance their accounts. The EBU has set the P2P figure at 29 pence per player, per session for 2010-11. The Suffolk P2P number is 4p. So the combined levy, per session, is 33p per player. That will be paid to the EBU as a single amount and the EBU will pass on the county component to Suffolk.

However, for clubs providing Master-Points, there is already an element that is per-player, per-session. A certificate costs around 40p and MPs are awarded to a third of the field. So, in some sense, there is an existing levy of 13p (a third of 40p) per player. MPs are included in P2P so…

The net increase in table-money for a club that issues MPs will be 20p.

If a club does not currently issue MPs then, to balance, it should increase table-money by the full 33p.

There is one other small difference: the EBU club-subscription is currently £20.50 and next April this goes up to £30.00 but though the county has often collected this on the behalf of the EBU, the SCBA receives none of it.

As mentioned above, Suffolk will continue to collect a proportional club subscription set at 50p per member, per year. Currently we do this in April along with the EBU club subscription. Because of the novelty of arrangements in April 2010 we have decided, certainly for 2010-11, to delay collection until June or July. We expect the records available from the EBU to disclose club membership and will probably issue an invoice based on the club membership. This cost is the same as current and has no impact on table-money.


This page: history

  • 14-Oct-2009 Created

Suffolk & Universal Membership

There is quite a lot of detail on the website. Much of it concerns financial matters, how clubs and the county relate to each other after UM. For player guides, the best pages to read are:

See the UM homepage for links to all the material.

Any committee member will help you with questions on UM but we have a dedicated working party to answer and pursue problems.

Other than the pages on the debate in June 2008, all the others are kept up to date on matters of both advice and fact and the page history panel reflects that.